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Re: How the US Stole Hawaii
[版面:军事天地][首篇作者:bj3] , 2021年09月26日21:59:36 ,次阅读,次回复
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发信人: bj3 (蘑菇头), 信区: Military
标  题: Re: How the US Stole Hawaii
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sun Sep 26 21:59:36 2021, 美东)

“When the missionaries came to Africa they had the Bible and we had the
land. They said "Let us pray." We closed our eyes. When we opened them we
had the Bible and they had the land.”

-- Desmond Tutu.
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发信人: alexsung (Keep your feet on the ground.), 信区: Military
标  题: Re: How the US Stole Hawaii
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sun Sep 26 22:02:07 2021, 美东)

墨西哥州,加州,德州就是墨西哥的燕云十六州。
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发信人: bj3 (蘑菇头), 信区: Military
标  题: Re: How the US Stole Hawaii
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sun Sep 26 22:05:27 2021, 美东)

You can really tell that the US inherited some british traits...

【 在 alexsung (Keep your feet on the ground.) 的大作中提到: 】
: 墨西哥州,加州,德州就是墨西哥的燕云十六州。



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标  题: Re: How the US Stole Hawaii
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sun Sep 26 22:07:10 2021, 美东)

The debate is about US imperialism and colonial past which has the blueprint
of british imperialism (being mostly the same people who founded the
country), and your previous reply ("such as?") seemed to challenge that
assertion..So I gave you some food for thought, even though the evidence is
written in the history books, and someone with some education and an
objective mind would be aware of that. Therefore asking for evidence in
regards of inherited british traits in american imperial foreign policy, it'
s quite rich, if not outright hypocritical. That's my view.
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发信人: bj3 (蘑菇头), 信区: Military
标  题: Re: How the US Stole Hawaii
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sun Sep 26 22:07:53 2021, 美东)

How the U.S. Stole Mexico

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OMmxKiG4LE&ab_channel=JohnnyHarris




【 在 alexsung (Keep your feet on the ground.) 的大作中提到: 】
: 墨西哥州,加州,德州就是墨西哥的燕云十六州。



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发信人: DEHEI (的黑), 信区: Military
标  题: Re: How the US Stole Hawaii
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sun Sep 26 22:14:06 2021, 美东)



这几个州德州是先独立然后加入美国的
另外俩是墨西哥主动发起战争,输了的赔偿。

其实墨西哥也没占领加州多长时间,30多年吧

据说当年整个加州总人口才几十万。加州墨西哥人大概有2、3万人。跟着土地一块赔偿
给美国了

说实话,以当时美国和墨西哥的力量对比,如果美国真的是流氓强盗的话,至少下加州
墨西哥保不住。



【 在 alexsung (Keep your feet on the ground.) 的大作中提到: 】
: 墨西哥州,加州,德州就是墨西哥的燕云十六州。




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标  题: Re: How the US Stole Hawaii
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sun Sep 26 22:26:14 2021, 美东)

So, Mexicans never crossed the border
the border crossed them

【 在 DEHEI (的黑) 的大作中提到: 】
: 屁
: 这几个州德州是先独立然后加入美国的
: 另外俩是墨西哥主动发起战争,输了的赔偿。
: 其实墨西哥也没占领加州多长时间,30多年吧
: 据说当年整个加州总人口才几十万。加州墨西哥人大概有2、3万人。跟着土地一块赔偿
: 给美国了
: 说实话,以当时美国和墨西哥的力量对比,如果美国真的是流氓强盗的话,至少下加州
: 墨西哥保不住。



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标  题: Re: How the US Stole Hawaii
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sun Sep 26 22:28:00 2021, 美东)

It seems like the US is really good at playing dirty and bloody and then
making inspiring films about how amazing it all was becoming so amazing.
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发信人: bj3 (蘑菇头), 信区: Military
标  题: Re: How the US Stole Hawaii
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sun Sep 26 22:30:12 2021, 美东)

It's the fact that so many countries and groups of people have done this all
throughout human history, but the ones who complain the most about these
events are American liberals. And as a Brit, it's kind of ridiculous how you
guys do that. This event is like people of France or Spain yelling their
territory was stolen from the Romans. Which they would find it absolutely
stupid to say. To us in Europe, this is just another story of conquer and
success. But this guy is flipping the history and story to remorse and
sympathy for the loser, and making the viewers feel the same. Which in a way
is flipping history for softy leftists. History's not about if "you were
there first" or "they were weaker, so it wasn't fair." No!!! It's about
interests and fighting for them. Survival of the fittest. Eat or be eaten.
The US saw an opportunity and took it. Mexico couldn't fight to keep it, so
lose it. Stop feeling sorry for them because they lost. Because, now you're
just saying wars don't need a loser because you feel bad. Sure, you can feel
bad for the loser but, that's how it's always been. Winners and losers.
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